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Is this Signal Manipulator behaviour explainable or some kind of bug? (picture linked)

  • presssquaretoeat

    Question for you - Why do you have a fat wire going in to the signal input? If all you want is a value of on and off can you simplify that to a single wire using a splitter? I just tried inputting a Fat wire of (1,0,0) to a SM and can't make sense of the number that came out (1.7 for some reason )

    Have you enabled any Blend Modes on your input wires? A blend mode of 'Blend' with inputs of 1, 0, 0 would output .3 as this is the weighted average. This doesn't seem to apply to fat wire input, just multiple input wires. Still worth a check as it's easy to overlook.

    Worth also checking that 0.01% of a chance! Wire up a number displayer, set it to 2 decimal places and wire it up to the same value the signal manipulator is receiving. Activate your Trigger zone in Edit mode and if the number displayer is selected you'll see what the value is.

  • Spirit-X

    Good thoughts, thanks. I did actually discover what's going on but before I explain that:

    I did try splitting the fat wire and only sending in the actual single wire I needed but a value slider (set to 2 decimals) then confirmed that the signal the sig-manips received was identical either way.

    Haven't checked out the Blend thing so thanks for that. Can't say I really understand the various blend modes yet. When I need to connect one output to multiple inputs, I quite often hold L1 as I'm connecting so that I don't have to go back and get the wire from the output again. However, I'm just starting to realise that maybe by doing that I could be causing odd blend results. I need to look into how it works.

    So, the actual solution:

    Having gone through all the inputs and outputs quite meticulously, I'm now fairly sure that in this case I've actually discovered a bug. As I stated, when I first set up the circuit in question, the sig-manips where functioning perfectly, then somewhere along the line they suddenly started getting weird, as per my picture.

    The difference turned out to be that I had wired the microchip that the sig-manips live in, to be powered by a Selector. When the parent chip IS NOT powered by a Selector, all functionality is perfect. When the parent chip IS powered by a Selector, the sig-manips get weird and start functioning like in my picture.

    Think I'd better report it as I can't see it covered in any other posts yet.

  • Supposer

    From the screenshot, it shows an input of 0 becoming an output of -1. Sounds like the expected behaviour to me.

    I'm not sure why the face of the gadget looks like an L. Perhaps it's showing the input for the tall part and the output for the short part. Haven't really figured out why it looks different like that sometimes, yet.

    Though the only thing that matters is what it *outputs*, right? And it seems like it's outputting what I would expect.

  • Spirit-X

    No it's not outputting -1. If you look at the sig-manip that is receiving zero (the bottom one), you can see it's outputting something around 0.3

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